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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:20 am
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Alright, so I bought the sneaky system some time ago. It's good stuff. But I would like to add a few things on top of what has already been taught:

Switch Up - I wouldn't use RJ's Sneaky System word for word. The reason why is simple; once Google figures out how you're "gaming" their search engine, it wont take them a minute to change the way their search engine works. And guess what happens to your rankings then?

What I'm suggesting is that you don't do exactly as the sneaky system tells you to. So try altering what the system suggests for on page optimization. Make some keywords bold, leave the others be. Link back with some keywords, and link back with non-keywords. Use the keyword as the third word in meta. Get the picture?

Multiple Products - Why not use the sneaky system methods to promote multiple products at the same time? You know, when you're making your mini-sites, reserve a page or two (or make a new set altogether) for a related product (aka, a product that is of the same maker and the same brand).

Outsource - The sneaky system is about making minisites as quick as you can. In my opinion, there is no faster way than outsourcing. Hire out the work of creating unique content, images, and even product/keyword research. Let your workers do the work, while you focus your efforts on other things.
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Any suggestions, post them here. ;)

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:39 pm
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:13 pmPosts: 961Location: Long Island, New York
Question: Why would any marketer outsource their content? Your content is marketing and selling. I don't understand who would outsource it to a unknown individual.

also wouldn't you want to verify and double check your product and demand research? I mean you can't just trust any outsource worker on marketing.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:11 pm
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ansubchaudry wrote:
Question: Why would any marketer outsource their content? Your content is marketing and selling. I don't understand who would outsource it to a unknown individual.

also wouldn't you want to verify and double check your product and demand research? I mean you can't just trust any outsource worker on marketing.

In the Sneaky System, your content comes directly from the vendor of the product. So I don't see any problem with that. Personally, I think that using vendor content is not so great for conversion rates, but I'm sure it works.

Writing is easily the one thing that takes the longest in this system. If you don't want to expose any marketing secrets, you can outsource the bulk, or the fluff, and reserve the SEO and selling for yourself.

If you are concerned with who you have handle your work, then hire it out to an organization or group on elance that has established their reputation.

Obviously, you want to make sure the side products are worth selling, but it is not as important. If the main product is selling, then it's a safe bet that another product in the same family should sell well also.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:01 pm
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:13 pmPosts: 961Location: Long Island, New York
hmmm nice...

I think writing yourself can also be a issue because it will restrict u from making more websites, thus less money.

Guess RJ is right with outsourcing.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:05 pm
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:37 pmPosts: 2
Will still press on...

I bought a domain and am in the middle of getting it set up (my second sneaky site) and another sneaky system student targeted the same product and got his/her site launched before me!


When you have thousands of students targeting the same "best sellers" and as more and more people use these tools, I suppose it will happen more frequently.

Wonder if anyone else has run into this yet?

Have a prosperous day!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:56 pm
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:22 pmPosts: 82
scottmosley wrote:
Will still press on...

I bought a domain and am in the middle of getting it set up (my second sneaky site) and another sneaky system student targeted the same product and got his/her site launched before me!


When you have thousands of students targeting the same "best sellers" and as more and more people use these tools, I suppose it will happen more frequently.

Wonder if anyone else has run into this yet?

Have a prosperous day!

I say keep going on with it. You might not get #1, but #2 is almost as good a spot.

Just take a good look at their site, think on how you can make it better, and do just that.

Also, try offering a bonus of some kind. Like a how-to guide for the product, or it's just related.

For example, if you are selling an mp3 player, then offer a free guide on where to get free mp3's for people who buy from your link.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:08 pm
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:37 pmPosts: 2
Thanks Razr for the tips.

I have another question or request for advise.

I submitted my website about 3 days ago and I am now indexed! However I am on the second page (3rd result)Good, but not good enough.

What I have done so far:
I have submitted to the social bookmarking sites, made a sister Squidoo mini site (not duplicating the content)

I know they suggest articles and such but my question is what step would you take next? And is where I am currently indexed going to be my permanent spot? Or can I and will I move up in the search results?

Thanking you for your suggestions and knowledge.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:21 pm
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:22 pmPosts: 82
scottmosley wrote:
Thanks Razr for the tips.

I have another question or request for advise.

I submitted my website about 3 days ago and I am now indexed! However I am on the second page (3rd result)Good, but not good enough.

What I have done so far:
I have submitted to the social bookmarking sites, made a sister Squidoo mini site (not duplicating the content)

I know they suggest articles and such but my question is what step would you take next? And is where I am currently indexed going to be my permanent spot? Or can I and will I move up in the search results?

Thanking you for your suggestions and knowledge.

Back links, back links, and more back links. Build as many as you can from as many different (preferably niche related) domains as you can.

Also, do my earlier suggestion. Look at the top result's site, and see how they're all set up. If they've done their SEO right, you should optimize your site in a like manner.

For back links, obviously the easiest way is to submit to social networking sites. But submitting articles does help as well. Build as many as you can. If you don't want to, outsource.

You should get the #1 spot then. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:06 am
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:22 pmPosts: 82
So Scott, how's that turning out for you?


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